Three Cheers for Nigel Farage

The straw that broke the camel’s back,
and sent me on the UKIP track,
was David Cameron’s caving in,
to Tony Blair’s adoption sin.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6309495.stm

Wrong, wrong, wrong. The UK has gone for many years without having a far-right neo-fascist party like our Austrian, French and Belgian cousins. We should not be rejoicing at UKIP’s emergence.

You can’t call UKIP far right and neo fascist, that’s the BNP, who have been around for a long time. All UKIP want is for Europe not to rule Britannia. Our forefathers managed for hundreds of years, with slightly better results than Tony Bliar, and who are we to give up the cause? Well done Andrew on highlighting such a wonderful personality!

Calling UKIP “neo-fascist” is about as far off the mark as you can get. It’s folks like the BNP and friends that are the genuine neo-fascists: they want nationally-organized socialism after all, and that’s what fascism is.

Besides, can you suggest a better way of getting the Conservative Party to take conservatism, and especially the preservation of sovereignty, seriously again? I’m open to suggestions and new ideas. Until I hear better, then it’s UKIP all the way!

Mr. Paterson sounds like a typical Tory careerist: we can’t make a serious argument against UKIP because they hold all the positions we held for decades until very recently, so let’s through some names at them, and hopefully that’ll do the trick.

I completely agree. UKIP all the way. Cameron, Howard, Fox – I’ve heard all these leading Tories tell conservatives that the only way to get people even slightly sympathetic to their views into power is to vote Conservative. This is very annoying, for it both implies and ignores the converse: the only way for Tories to get into power is to pay attention to those who hold these different, but sympathetic opinions. They need us as much as we need them: why on earth should we, the people, and not they, the servants of the people, be forced to compromise? Who has a better record?

Perhaps UKIP is a good thing after all. As Malcolm Rifkind pointed out recently (and it isn’t often I agree with him, let me tell you) if UKIP’s growth rids the Tories of its nutter and fruitcake tendency, then we should all rejoice!

So, just out of curiousity, would you then agree that:

1) Defense of British sovereignty
2) Keeping the Pound
3) Securing borders and reducing immigration
4) Shifting power away from Westminster and towards local government

…are the defining factors of the “nutter and fruitcake tendency” in the Tory party?

UKIP? Neo-fascist? You’ve got to be kidding me! UKIP are more moderate than Labour and the Lib-Dems who want to remake the whole of Britain in their image. Sadly, thanks to the leftward drift of the Conservative Party’s leaders, UKIP will soon be more moderate then them too.

The fact that you feel the need to call them “neofascist” shows how desperate you are! Why not make an argument against their specific policies or positions?

Well, with persons like Mr, Farage, the UK may not be quite dead yet. I’m stunned that Britain still produce someone like him.

“Perhaps UKIP is a good thing after all. As Malcolm Rifkind pointed out recently (and it isn’t often I agree with him, let me tell you) if UKIP’s growth rids the Tories of its nutter and fruitcake tendency, then we should all rejoice!”

And thats why your good self, Mr Rifkind, and the Tory party have spent a generation on the subs bench. Who needs nutters eh? oh wait a minute…you do.

Ah, how marvellous to see the shards of the right bicker amongst themselves. Keep at it, chaps! You’ll manage to stay in the collective shadows a good while yet.

Ah, the legitimate use of force is a fine thing! Use sparingly, but with devastating efficacy.

Herr Philip is incorrect, however, in seeing this as a conflict amongst the members of “the right” (if such a thing exists). It is a conflict of conservatives vs. liberals, despite the liberals in question being uppercase-C Conservatives.

Andrew,

This guy’s terrific. Let’s amend the Constitution and run him against Hilary!

Dear Mr. Cussack,

I was recently spending a few days with a dear priest freind of mine in the Diocese of Sioux Falls, in South Dakota, and came upon your blog in his list of faves. You have new reader here. Father says the Trad. Latin Mass at our cathedral. I currently am assigned as the Master of Ceromonies and Driver to the Bihop. All the best to you! And Keep up the good work! I do enjoy your take on things.

Pax,

Rev. Mr. S. D. Stevens

I love dearly what Farage says, particularly about Barroso’s corrupt(ed) Commission members, and his unfavorable comparison of Blair’s weak defense of British interests with Chiraq’s unflinching defense of those of France. However, without knowing more of Farage, I ask myself if there is not an undertone of ego and self-gratification — a la the schoolboy debating society — in his bombastic assaults. IMHO it risks rendering them dismissable by the powers that be. It’s clear from the relatively mild audience reaction that Farage is largely talking to a brick wall of complicity. And this despite the self-evident truths of what he says. I would love to see the philosophical tires from which Farage’s remarks are made actually bite deep into Europe’s political road sometime soon to give us real cleansing action. But I hold not my breath. Maybe it will come be via a growing UKIP. I hope so. In the meantime, we will just have to be thankful that such views are being expressed in such a sad forum.
Thanks you Mr. Cusack for bringing Farage to our attention.

Well, I should point out that in all three videos he is speaking at meetings of European governmental bodies, not the party faithful, nor even the public at large. Given the nature of most EU bureaucrats and pols, a mild audience reaction is no surprise. This is boring new Brussels after all, not rowdy old Westminster.

Quote: “Well, I should point out that in all three videos he is speaking at meetings of European governmental bodies….”

I would say that there is no better place for Farage to express his views. But it is important for him to be taken seriously there, and for his ideas to be more than a hokey criticism and negation of policies by the ‘fat cats’ on the dais. When government (local, national and Euro) expenditures get to be more than a 50 percent intrusion into the GNP it will be impossible to turn back. It may already be there?? At tha point one lives in a centralized system of government — and all that that brings with it — without ever having explicitly voted for it.
Britain has had its Thatcherite, supply side revolution, which one hopes will continue agressively because government spending was barely cut back, if at all, despite growth. However, Europe still has a long, long way to go from its centralizing style, despite Merkel, Berlusconi, the more open-minded East Europeans, and hopefully Sarkozy.
Keep up the good work, Mr.Farage. But let’s convert the criticisms into a movement.

UKIP, please create an inspirational video presentation celebrating everything great that is British with aerial photography of our greatest architecture and areas of outstanding natural beauty, a reference to the Crown Jewels and the greatest monarchy on Earth, references to world famous British geniuses like Shakespeare and Darwin, references to our finest military victories- think Battle of Britain and Spitfires, a reference to our Commonwealth, a reference to OUR OWN union which is Great Britain. Musical accompanyment could be “Land of hope and glory”, “Rule Brittania”, the coronation music “Zadok the Priest”, etc. How many countries have a “CV” like ours.

Mr Elliott; the problem with the imagery that you describe is that it could very well be used as a background to a BNP broadcast. Unfortunately, such nationalist, triumphalist content has been hijacked by the far right and these days tends to make those of us who are not conservative English by nature feel rather uncomfortable. Oh, and OUR OWN union was created largely against the will of those who were unified….

Nigel Farage is the ONLY politician I admire or respect, because he’s the ONLY one with an ounce of integrity or guts for standing up to the corrupt tyrants of the EU parliament.

I’m sick and tired of so-called Britons who accuse UKIP’s stance of being “racist / xenophobic / nationalist” – Britain is now ruled by self-elected beaurocrats in Brussels (i.e dictatorship), personally I believe in a thing called DEMOCRACY where WE the PEOPLE elect our leaders and our nations sovereignty, traditions and customs remain intact and not desecrated to the point of no return.

Stuart Paterson, Mel Halford, you need your brains checked. If you are so ashamed of your British culture and heritage then why don’t you go and live in communist china? How can you possibly feel “unconfortable” by people who are trying to assert their democratic rights. I suppose you would prefer to live under Fabian Marxist Gordon Brown and his Communitarian New World Order? Hmmm…

I will be voting UKIP next election.

Hi,

for a great deal more background on Nigel Farage you may well find:
http:CaterpillarsAndButterflies.Blogspot.com of more than passing interest!

Farage’s self serving conceit and propensity for talking to camera in empty rooms in a pretence of robust debate is little more than childish ego driven bragadoccio.

Farage has done a great deal to damage The EUroSceptic movement by undermining its credibility with lies in his own interest – sadly The EU gives him £Millions with which to pay Praise Singers and sychophants.

Sadly one can always find dishonest little men to lie for one when the rewards are liberal – he has done much to promote The BNP whilst cozying up through Mark Croucher, his personal spin liar, to the extremist and vile Searchlight organisation.

Farage has for several years now chaired the pro EU Ind.De.Group in the EU pretend Parliament with its total lack, NOT just a deficit, of Democracy.

I trust you will have no objection that I have linked with this article from my site.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Hi,

Liz Smith said:
UKIP? Neo-fascist? You’ve got to be kidding me! UKIP are more moderate than Labour and the Lib-Dems who want to remake the whole of Britain in their image. Sadly, thanks to the leftward drift of the Conservative Party’s leaders, UKIP will soon be more moderate then them too.

The fact that you feel the need to call them “neofascist” shows how desperate you are! Why not make an argument against their specific policies or positions?

Sadly she seems to have noted the froth on top of the class but not the foam of rat poisin below!

Farage gained control of EUkip through the lies and corruption of a small claque and with the use of a great deal of Party cash.

This led to a collapse of membership from around 30,000 to somewhere short of 10,000 where many of the risidual members were ‘the armchair’ uninformed vote and his corruption has led to an exodus of the activists and the making of many legitimate and honest enemies.

In the latter half of last year realising the party was heading for the rocks Farage opted to construct a ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment – so VERY redollent of the politics of The EU with a beneficial crisis!!

Farage and a small group of his fantasists invented the fantasy of a BNP infiltration based on the most febrile of plots – to this day he has not named a single serious BNP infiltrator! He LIED.

This has given rise to the possibility through a ‘Crystal Nacht’ orf removing elected Officers who demanded probity and honest accounts based on transparency.

Farage has taken a lurch back into a dark ages of politics centralising power as an authoritarian and neo fascist style (or if you prefer BNP style) form of management as a personalised feifdom.

Farage is very plausible, an excellent performer at times as are often moral dyslexics as they believe their own fantasies.

EUkip were heading for 0-3 MEPs until they became the dustbin of the protest votes over the abuse of expenses at Westminster and the dominance of the hugely unpopular Brown Government faced by the wet and venal Tories as an opposition.

The EU elections on June 4th. are all about Westminster protest and have absolutely ignored the EU and its vile corruption from which Farage bosts to have ‘lifted’ over £2M in unaccounted claims – when questioned by The Sun newspaper he confessed he hadn’t a clue what happened to this not inconsequential tranche of tax payers money.

All is not what it seems in Britain under the dictatorship of the reveilled dictatorship in Brusells!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

I think Nigel Farage rocks. Thank god there is someone in that “parliament” that isn’t controlled by the elites and isn’t afraid to call it like it is.

Nigel Farage is my new hero!